Spray foam insulation nightmare: What can happen if it’s not installed correctly (CBC Marketplace)


(♪♪)>>Tom: This week on “Marketplace”.>>I’m afraid for the children and, you know, what they’ve been exposed to.>>Tom: Insulation nightmares.>>I think we’ve got what we need for the lab.>>Tom: It’s a popular energy saver.>>When It’s installed properly, it’s really — it’s a bullet proof product.>>It’s gotta come out, the foam’s gotta come out.>>Tom: That could put you out of house and home …>>You’re playing kind of a game of Russian Roulette with this.>>Tom: And transform your life into a renovation horror story. (♪♪)>>Tom: It’s a scorching June day. We’re driving into the Caledon Hills, north of Toronto, and into a nightmare. The house of their dreams, now haunted. The owners living in a camper steps from the front door. This is a refuge for Robert and Sonia Franceschini and their two kids. I guess it won’t be a long tour.>>No probably not. So this is where we’ve been living.>>Tom: Wow, yeah.>>This is the trailer. The kitchenette area.>>Tom: Right. So you’ve got two young children. Are they asking lots of questions about why are we in here?>>We try not to talk too much in front of them so they don’t get worried or frightened.>>Tom: What could be so frightening? Wow, big house. Nice. It’s just 14 years old he says. 3000 square feet. Mortgage free. But right now, he couldn’t sell it if he tried. The reason? There’s something in the air. Ok the bedroom. Oh yeah, I can smell that.>>Oh, yeah.>>Tom: Geez.>>It’s pretty bad.>>Tom: Pretty strong, yeah. foul. Like bad fish smell.>>The hotter it gets the more, the more it smells.>>Tom: Right.>>The more it smells.>>Tom: And if you stay in here long, what happens?>>Well, you’ll see within the first five minutes you’ll probably start getting a headache.>>Tom: Actually I’m getting a headache now, honest to God. I’m feeling something here. Yeah, it’s quite, uh, it’s insidious. It’s not just the bad smell that’s made their home unliveable.>>Well I started feeling like excruciating pain, joint pain, in the knees and I had swelling in my legs and my feet. And, uh, I just looked at Robert and I said, Robert, I think I need to go to the hospital.>>Tom: They feel as if their house is attacking them. The trouble started this spring they say. Just days after their attic was treated with spray foam insulation. Did you call the company and explain you were having problems? What did they do?>>I brought them up to the bedroom where the main problem was and they said they really couldn’t smell anything. And I was flabbergasted.>>Tom: So what did you think when the company said we don’t smell anything?>>Well, I knew exactly where this was gonna go. And this is why were still here two months later.>>Tom: You heard right. On our visit, they’d been out of their home for two months. When she has to go inside, Sonia wears a mask.>>We thought we were doing something to improve our home and instead they basically destroyed my home. They ruined it. We can’t live in it anymore.>Tom: Not the kind of testimonial the spray foam industry wants to hear. Over the past decade, it’s become the hottest trend in Canadian home insulation. The industry is growing by 30% every year. Why the boom? High heating costs, government tax credits.>>They introduced spray foam which I absolutely love.>>Tom: And those home reno shows. (♪♪)>>Tom: The spray foamer those stars rely on?>>Sorry I can’t remember all the shows, there’s so many.>>Tom: Alex Schuts, who started his own business while in high school.>>I’ve been doing it 22 years. I live and breathe insulation. It’s good for the environment because we save on burning of fossil fuels. It doesn’t let drafts through. when It’s installed properly It’s really a bullet proof product, right.>>Tom: Hmm, when it’s installed properly?>>It’s not simple, and you don’t just pick up the gun and start spraying.>>Tom: Nope, it’s more like a science project right in your home. The sprayer is mixing two sets of serious chemicals he’s specially trained to handle. The conditions have to be just right. And the foam has to be sprayed in thin layers, so it can cure allowing the chemicals to stabilize. It’s sophisticated stuff that promises an energy efficient home. And Alex Schuts says it works that way almost every time.>>There’s a lot of foam being sprayed, there’s a lot of happy customers.>>Tom: In fact, the Franceschini’s were happy when they had a family property spray foamed this past spring. But after their attic job at home, Sonia says not only did she feel ill, she says her daughter broke out in rashes.>>I’m afraid for the children and, you know, what they’ve been exposed to and, um, you know, is there going to be any long term effects to what they’ve been exposed to and it’s just really upsetting. (♪♪)>>Tom: Fear, stress, uncertainty for two months. Time to find out if this foam has taken possession of their home. We call in Frank Haverkate. Frank, how are you doing.>>Hi Tom, how are you, nice to see you.>>Tom: He’s a certified indoor air quality specialist. He’s trying to figure out what chemicals might be floating around.>>Let’s take a reading in the bedroom where we smell odours.>>Tom: He pulls out his computerized air detector. And the small tins gather air samples for later.>>All these samples are going to be here for 48 hours.>>Tom: Then we enter the belly of the beast. If an attic can be a belly.>>So we just want to get a cutaway of the inside of the core closest to the bottom.>>Tom: Frank also wants to test a foam sample.>>I’m not wearing any nitral gloves or any gloves because I don’t want the chemicals from the nitral affecting the sample that I’m cutting.>>Tom: Could this be what’s giving off bad fumes?>>I don’t know if you want to take a sniff of that but it has a pretty good odour to it.>>Tom: Mmm, it’s that fishy odour again, right? Same smell from the bedroom. we’re right above the bedroom, right here.>>I think we’ve got what we need for the lab.>>Tom: Excellent.>>Great. Let’s get out of this sauna.>>Tom: I agree with you. There is no graceful way to do this. Foam samples in hand, Frank heads out, and offers a few last minute instructions to the family.>>Stay out of the bedroom. just leave everything the way it is I’ll be back in a couple of days to pick it up.>>Tom: The Franceschini’s may feel alone in this horror show.>>We all felt burning like ammonia.>>Tom: Turns out they’re not.>>We live with a nightmare still.>>Tom: Tales from the deep south. Reveal more foam invasions.>>You’re playing kind of a game of russian roulette with this. (♪♪) (♪♪)>>Tom: we’re investigating a renovation horror story, and our journey into the dark side of spray foam has taken us south to the sunshine state.>>Tonight action 9 exposes a growing threat to local home owners.>>Tom: Where we heard more reports of foam invasions.>>My heart just started racing and racing, and I was hyperventilating and I fell to the ground.>>Tom: I’m in Kissimi, Florida, an Orlando suburb. on the way to meet Joan and Mike Roth. Driven from their house by spray foam three years ago. So your trailer was over here?>>Yes, it was over on thisre? side. That was a nightmare. that’s how we list everything that happened to us, just the overall category, we call it a nightmare.>>We all felt burning like ammonia, it was an awful experience.>>This just gives you a sense of how deep this is.>>Tom: Their home video is now the Rothi’s personal horror flick. It started when they spray foamed the attic. They wanted to cut their energy costs. It was the cost of their health and home that blindsided them.>>We say before the foam and after the foam. I mean, It’s changed our lives.>>Tom: First the installer and manufacturer claimed there were no problems. Then tried some repairs. nothing worked.>>So I actually got on the phone and called remediation companies,companies that take out asbestos, and that type of thing, deal with mould problems; none of them had a protocol for spray foam. Nobody was going to touch it.>>Tom: What the Roths were learning is that North American spray foam industry has no official guidelines for taking out a bad job.>>So we said we’re going to have to pull the sheeting off the roof, pull the whole thing off, and have someone mechanically go in and scrape every piece of wood and every piece of drywall and take it and throw it away.>>Tom: And how did that go?>>What was it, 16 days?>>Sixteen days it took.>>Finally they got 90-some per cent of it out.>>Tom: Safely locked away in the garage, Mike is keeping some relics from their ordeal. Looks like candy.>>It does not smell like candy.>>Tom: Oh, yeah, yeah, sort of a fishy smell. There are other reminders that are far more upsetting. Their son Julian has suffered from asthma and joint pain ever since, reacts to the chlorine in the pool. But the Roths say he was fine until the morning the spraying started, when he was sleeping.>>This is Julian’s bedroom. this is where they sprayed first. I’m still upset when I think about that crucial time when he was in the room when they were spraying right over his bedroom. Makes me sick. Makes me sick to think about.>>Tom: In fact, the whole family was inside that day.>>They didn’t say anything about leaving the house and here they are spraying these chemicals up there and we’re still in the house.>>Tom: Health issues. Smelly foam. Living in a trailer. The Roth’s story is eerily similar to our Canadian case. As spray foam’s popularity has spread, so have more troubling stories.>>You’re playing kind of a game of Russian roulette with this.>>Tom: Bernie Bloom is a kind of foam buster.>>It doesn’t matter if you did it right twenty times in a row, the twenty first home might be different.>>Tom: People such as Bernie are in demand across the U.s. they’re expert advisors for a number of class action lawsuits currently underway. a leading indoor air scientist for 40 years, he’s involved with dozens of bad spray foam issues, six of them here in Florida.>>We have more and more houses being sprayed. I expect there’s going to be more, not fewer, problems.>>Tom: The man who helped design ventilation systems for the international space station believes spray foam is a formula for trouble.>>The foam itself is manufactured in the house, not in a factory. If you spray it too thick and it gets too hot, then the reactions that happen are not what was designed in the factory or in the laboratory. You got a runaway reaction.>>Tom: So that fishy smell? Bernie says it means the chemicals in the foam weren’t mixed right and didn’t stabilize.>>When it works, it does fine. When it doesn’t work, and if you’re in the house, you can become chemically sensitized which is a dreadful condition.>>Tom: Bernie’s not a doctor. but experience tells him that’s what happened to the Roths. Why would they be there or why wouldn’t they be told to leave?>>If you tell somebody, um, we’re going to spray the stuff, It’s great stuff, but we want you not to be in the house for a day or two. which is conventional industry Internal guidance, some people are going to ask, why? Is there something wrong? Is it toxic?>>Tom: The day their attic was sprayed in Caledon, the Franceschinis weren’t worried about the foam because they say, they didn’t know about staying out of the house.>>Most of the time we were out here while they were spraying. If we needed something we’d run in the house and get it. When the salesman was here he may have mentioned it, but I don’t recall. But out of all pamphlets, paperwork I got, or all my quotes, nothing in there that says I should have stayed out of the house, cause that would have stuck in my head.>>Tom: And here’s their job quote. Nothing about staying out of the house. Nothing in the company brochures either. Meantime, It’s been more than three months since they’ve had a family meal in their dining room or kitchen.>>What took you so long?>>Oh, please.>>Tom: Can it really be that bad in the house so long after the job was done? (♪♪)>>Tom: Oh, yeah. It’s still there. There’s still that fishy smell.>>It’s still off gassing.>>Tom: Yeah, you can still smell it.>>We’ll turn that fan on, ventilate the whole house, open up all the windows, shut it down and it’s right back.>>Tom: Remember — we tested the bad air in the master bedroom and the foam above it. Now Frank Haverkate is back with some unsettling results. The air samples reveal a laundry list of chemicals.>>In a nutshell you’ve got some Toluene issues, you’ve got MEK issues.>>Tom: Some of those things can be linked to cancer.>>Ethylbenzene.>>Tom: Frank believes the spray foam job’s to blame but can’t conclusively prove it. Now for the foam results.>>One of the surprising things is we found formaldehyde. Now, it’s –>>Tom: Formaldehyde?. We’re surprised. The manufacturer of the Franceschini’s foam says their insulation doesn’t contain formaldehyde or similar compounds.>>Again, they’re low levels but, uh, it really shouldn’t be there.>>Tom: Frank thinks It’s the installation job gone wrong, creating new, dangerous chemicals. What do you think about what you’re hearing.>>Needless to say It’s scary.>>Tom: You scared?>>Yes, very much so.>>Tom: So what’s your advice to them?>>You’re gonna have to get the product removed.>>Tom: Desperate times, desperate measures.>>Well, you can only stay in a trailer for so long.>>Tom: you’re about to see one extreme makeover. (♪♪) (♪♪) (♪♪)>>Tom: The Franchini’s are tired of trailer living.>>Go into our room, go. (♪♪)>>Tom: Tired of being spooked by the spray foam in their attic.>>I’m still in disbelief. I can’t believe that somebody would do this to a family and not want to take ownership for what they did.>>I need to get back into my house.>>Tom: And they’re tired of searching for answers. The foam manufacturer had the air and the foam tested and said its product wasn’t causing problems. Then, an independent group determined a section of foam was too thick and emitting chemicals. The manufacturer eventually agreed. the family has heard enough.>>It’s gotta come out, the foam’s gotta come out. (♪♪)>>It’s gotta come right out. Yep.>>Tom: Removing bad foam is what Alex Schuts is up to today.>>Mainly on this side. This side too. It’s the middle section that’s the worst.>>Tom: The stuff his man sprayed isn’t making anyone sick and it doesn’t stink but It’s cracking and peeling.>>Never seen it this thick. This is the worst I’ve ever. seen, Tom. It’s terrible.>>Tom: Yes. TV’s most famous foam sprayer doesn’t always get it right and the industry agrees not every job is perfect.>>I hate the fact that it’s happening, but we’re here, we’re here to fix it. And it doesn’t cost the customer any money.>>Tom: How common is it for installers to have to take out foam?>>It’s rare. It’s happening more now than probably in the past because there’s a lot more newer contractors out there.>>Tom: In your view, then, if an installer gets it wrong, are they obliged to fix it do you think?>>Damn right. Yeah, yeah. If you’re not doing what you’re supposed to be doing, fix it.>>Tom: So we’re hitting the road to Huntsville, Ontario, to talk to the company that spray foamed the Franceschini’s attic. A family business called Thermoseal Insulation. Richard Clement is the owner. So what do we have here?>>So this is the chemical, the two chemicals go together. If It’s not sprayed correctly it certainly could be a problem.>>Tom: he’s been in the business for decades. He figures the company’s done about 15,000 spray foam jobs, and says it’s their first case like this.>>I was in the bedroom, like the master bedroom upstairs.>>Yes.>>Tom: That’s where I got that smell. Did your folks go up there when they first visited the house?>>When they went there and couldn’t, they couldn’t detect it — I should qualify that,ct that they did smell, but it’s the smell they are accustomed to with a fresh application of polyurethane foam. They didn’t detect a fishy smell as the homeowner did.>>Tom: Richard says consultants told him only about 1% of the foam was bad.>>Tom: So why didn’t your company take out that foam?>>We offered to take out that foam. The homeowner decided that he wanted to have the entire attic area, 13 or 1400 square feet removed and that, in our opinion, and every other professional’s opinion was — unrealistic and unwarranted.>>Tom: Given that um, the wife got sick, days after it happened, can you understand why they’d probably want to get rid of it, get it out of their house?>>We’re sorry that the folks got sick but we don’t feel that it’s necessarily anything to do with the foam.>>Tom: He also disagrees with the family’s claim they weren’t warned about staying out of the house. There are guidelines that say in a residence the family shouldn’t be in the house for 24 hours.>>He was told that. he was told that by three different people from our company.>>Tom: Is there a reason it’s not on like the quote or the contract or anything like that written down?>>Since that incident we have put it in writing.>>Tom: Here’s Thermoseal’s new contract. By signing, the homeowner acknowledges: I have been informed of the health hazards and. I am not to occupy my residence for a period of one day (24 hours) after spray foam is installed. Spray foam is popular but Clements suggests it’s not always the best insulation choice.>>Tom: You try to talk people out of it.>>Yes, we do. So maybe people are using it too much in their houses?>>in some of the places we’re working it’s become the standard and there are, I think there are better applications out there.>>Tom: So if you’re thinking of Insulating, learn the risks, and benefits, of all kinds of insulation. If you pick spray foam, make sure the installer is certified and experienced. Get a guarantee of foam removal in writing, in case things go wrong. And stay away for at least a day. (♪♪)>>Tom: As for the Franceschinis, the disturbing tale of the house in the Caledon Hills has reached the end of the road. Are they still in the trailer? They got some relief? Problem solved? Trying to find out.>>Well, a you can come in and have a look. As far as you can see, if you look up there, the whole roof was removed.>>Tom: they’ve actually blown the lid off their home>>The only way to remove the foam for safety reasons was to Remove the whole roof.>>Tom: This renovation horror story ends with a domestic decapitation. Did they take it off in one piece?>>Yeah, the ceiling is still underneath. Well, we can see from the front. (♪♪)>>Tom: It’s almost like a skeleton in a way, right? Its finally stopped haunting you.>>Thank God that it’s outta my house and we don’t have to breath any of this anymore.>>Tom: After this long nightmare and its dramatic end Robert Franceschni is waking up to a new realization. He has to think about insulation again.>>And I have to be honest with you, I haven’t gotten to That stage yet on what to do. I guess it would be really stupid to try and re-spray foam. So… (♪♪)

100 comments

  • Wait Awhile explorer

    If you don't add enough hardener it will never set and that is why it smells.

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  • Crazycraigy

    This foam is only meant for filling gaps under the window cavity etc…it smells like Epoxy Glue it basically can get you high…

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  • Christopher TheCarpenter

    So we build using flame retardant plywood, shaft wall, etc…and use flammable materials for insulation…ummhhh

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  • Daniel Rakes

    Well yeah if they're spraying chemicals it's the homeowner's duty to make people get outside if they want them to….

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  • snejok888

    insulation in Florida ?? those people need psychotherapist !!

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  • In Perspective

    There's no need to add this to walls. Add it in the attic – and properly R-valued batten for the walls. Remember, walls are where your wiring/plumbing live. And you may need to visit in the future.

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  • 4R NORTHWEST

    Jeeeezus Christ! Spit it out already! We get it! Something went wrong with installation. Just tell us what exactly went wrong and dispense with the cliff hanger horror stories! 🙄🖕🏽

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  • Denim Lowe

    The elite corporate globalist assume no responsibility for anything. Long term injury, the disposal of their products..you name it. They just laugh as they roll in the $$$. They've made money destroying the earth and the health of life on it. Good example is cell phones, EMF and coming 5G. The ABC agencies are complicit.

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  • Staying Grounded

    A company is spraying chemicals and you don't know to leave with your son. Hmmm.

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  • Valentine Charlesworth

    Can't the Family file a case against the Foam-Insulation Company; for Endangering their Lives, And the Lives of their Children ??

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  • J man

    Plot twist: All this time it was just her cooter.

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  • martin flynn

    Hypocondriacs

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  • Mike Balloonman

    The camper that they are staying in has more formaldehyde in it than their house did

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  • curt butler

    I live and breathe insulation?… And the look on his face says it all

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  • Helenix M

    Terrible stuff

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  • VOLightPortal

    What is the name of the foam? Is it polyutherene "ecofoam" or something else?

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  • Marc Mayonnaise

    Therma seal is full of shyat!

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  • cashonlyj

    no up date? ok

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  • Pat Cavanaugh

    Is spray foam being used in new developments funded by the government? I visited one recently, looking for an apartment, and began to feel strange as soon as I went inside the building and then into several apartments. The air conditioning was on, but it was still kind of uncomfortably hot, as though they were controlling the thermostats and keeping the cost of electricity down. I used the bathroom in the hallway and found it to be quite comfortable, as it was so much cooler there. I couldn't wait to leave that toxic building. It was built for people over 55. I am much older than that. I want to live for awhile longer, so I won't be moving in there. I am going to stay where I am, near the woods, with nature at my fingertips and no mysterious toxic odors, just the lingering smell of my cooking. I hate the ad that says "a ….. place for mom." You lived with your mother, and hopefully your father, from birth to adulthood. Why can't they live with you when they grow old? You will be old someday, so think about that. One mother can raise five kids, but five kids can't take care of one mother.

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  • a96fzr600

    I really feel for these people, we get one shot at keeping ourselves in good health and then to be exposed to chemicals that change your health forever, this is like the person that dies from the ameba from swimming in warm lake water not everyone swimming that day will get sick only a small percentage because everyone reacts differently when exposed to different things. Stick to the basics don't be guinea pigs with new products.

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  • CbrF4i600

    Sounds like he wants to re-spray foam

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  • alan thomas

    its in the air of the camper 9formaldehyde)

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  • Zach Ford

    16 days? Who these fools hiring?

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  • Ninja_Therapy_ Here

    My life has changed and you can also get $5431 try this and you won't regret it
    tlcpplcom.icu?/SbBFZW

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  • john iorio

    Why doesnt canada ban the use of this stuff??? Just like asbestos has been banned here, those chemicals are too dangerous to use. Urethane should only be used on boats, and guitars!!!

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  • frank franko

    Redo all the Roof 👍new wood 👍carpenters needed 👍call 9 juan juan

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  • Paul Y

    I used to help install this. Never heard any bad cases.

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  • Lard Lover

    0:54 look at that little skinny boi! Someone needs to feed that fluffo or its gonna be a skeleton! #feedfluffo

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  • Katjo Daniels

    So sad

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  • Moonpie Spotlight

    I think if they just gave us a million for our suffering the odor would clear quickly.

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  • Megabats Microbats

    why use bats in this story? bats have nothing to do with horror

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  • Zennooda

    7:06 Dont do what that guy did.

    Putting weight anywhere other then the trusses is a good way to go through the ceiling. The only reason he didn't, was because of the foam distributing his weight.

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  • asadsamad25

    couldnt this video have been done in 4mins? I mean minus the sound effects and exagerations

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  • Debra Frakes

    green board insulation shoved in my walls did tge same. idios didnt outgass before install.

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  • Debra Frakes

    pink fluffy stuff fir my house

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  • Who's Who

    Rip off the roof then, and replace

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  • Pat Barnitz

    Typical of bad jobs done…Don't want to cover ….

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  • Leona Course

    Formedahyde caused migraines my daughter is allergic to it and one of houses had it! It is in a lot
    of products; including toothpaste! She lost weight and always had a runny nose!

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  • Na Me

    18:08 😮 🤔face

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  • Ray C

    When the foam burns it creates cyanide compounds!

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  • KFStreich

    Drama show, it's hard to say what really happens

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  • jadoo dookun

    I can’t understand why there is no control on these toxic chemicals

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  • Kyle Garrison

    is spray foam used in RVs and campers?

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  • vexas

    Reminder that the RV they live in is whole foam insulated

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  • Brian Peterson

    Always do your research and get multiple options references to big of job to take chances

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  • C.L Strife

    This reminds me of another time where Victorian families used a poisonous green chemical in their wall papers.

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  • Bryan Montgomery

    Formaldehyde and amine. Most modern insulation foam doesn’t even use it anymore. New foams even have a one hour re-entry time. This is really old news. This contractor was proven to be using the improper products at improper ratios. I can’t even replicate this odor with new products out today.

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  • Bryan Montgomery

    We have many many happy customers.

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  • Bryan Montgomery

    This should have been also applied to the roof deck in order to seal the outer envelope of the attic space. Filling the joists is a recipe for disaster. They obviously sprayed wet to high of a lift in one pass with off ratio products.

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  • barry mcdougal

    ONE HONEST FOAM SPRAYER — WE HAVE FOUND.

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  • Photo Finish

    Like every product, it has a life expectancy, and do you think the spray foam companies are going to inform you?

    Now think! When it’s time to replace it – how much will that cost! 🤣

    Just like stucco, you’ve been ripped off.

    Here’s some advice: easy to install and easy to remove = good product.

    If you can resell the product after it’s been removed = great product.

    Spray foam insulation = con product, garbage, trash, AVOID

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  • Truth BeTold

    Spray foam made from part A and B mixed in a device which heats it and proportions it then pushed thru a heated hose to a spray gun. Sounds like the source chemicals are contaminated. Chinese drywall in the early 2000s contaminated with formaldehyde was installed in 1000s homes. Same remedy must be removed.

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  • Alan Coffey

    Can't be dangerous if even the pro has no safety clothing PPE puts a piece to his nose and sniffs ya get all the badness into you bunch of dump asses with equipment all around no common sense scrape it out a couple hundred dollars to clear it out no go buy 100.000 dollor mobile home better deal no let's take the roof off no need for that dramatic ….at least the old fella knows the story

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  • Alan Coffey

    I sent my comments before it ended he has to install new insulation iam laughing so much tears are rolling down my face funny people OMG

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  • west75

    yeah not happening here……my electrician friend says that houses are built way too tight in this day in age and why there are more carbon monoxide deaths and injuries these days , houses can't breath anymore. I will gladly burn my 4.5 tons of pellets per year than deal with a problem like this…….

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  • Don Dawn

    I'm more terrified of spray foam than the monster under the bed …it sticks to everything and won't come off hence SKIN**YIKES GEEZ THESE PEOPLE WENT OVERBOARD AN ADAPTABLE VENTING SYSTEM WOULD HAVE BEEN WISER .

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  • Jayden Mendoza

    It's their fault that they probably got a company that gave a cheap deal.

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  • Ashleigh

    WHY on earth would someone with such a beautiful home get spray insulation installed?? Even a regular dumbie knows better than that, common logic. I have a house with absolutely no insulation in it at all and it does great in the winter and summer without insulation, and you just feel cleaner knowing there's no nasties up in the roof space above you. Even regular insulation isn't a good idea, full of all types of nasty particles.

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  • J. Floyd

    We used the same chemicals in the US Navy when creating pilot helmet liners. It comes in 2 parts and when combined it was poured into the top of the helmet liner while the pilot holds it against is head lightly with 2 straps on each side. Once the foaming stops bellowing (out the top hole) it's cut away excess then install into the helmet.

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  • Golden 47

    I don't get how these western countries use cheap material in building the house and the house ends up costing millions of dollars and the same house in the Middle East/ASIA/RUSSIA/half of Europe cost so much less and not to mention they use stronger material.

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  • Golden 47

    Common sense

    If chemicals are being sprayed in your house then clearly you don't need to have Einsteins brain to know that you shouldn't be in the house and not to mention not come back in the house for a certain amount of time. Good spraying job or bad comes later.

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  • Golden 47

    One simple tip.

    Do your own research and talk to people face to face as well as on the Internet to see the side effects. The good and the bad.

    And by no means is looking at a specific website and say that you did your research. No company will say things that makes them loose new customers.

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  • Chris Griffiths

    I am going to give this Story Three out of Ten. 3 for the Quality and Coverage of the Story, but I Deducted 7 Points because of Too Many missing Considerations. So overall a Dysfunctional Take on what is going on.

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  • Jane Dean

    I know you can experienced back to back grand mal seizures from the off gassing and odor from this crap.

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  • Franco Solis

    Long story short. He got his roof spray foamed again to save a few dollars

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  • Aesthetic Nerd

    Lets be real, CBC news is known for fear mongering and covering BS stories

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  • Able Puentes

    Get this, you got an old Widow lady will 15-30 cats in the house. And the cat's in the house pisses s*** and everything else in the house and the lady cannot smell it, because you got so use of the ammonia smell of piss and s*** and doesn't bother her. And that is the same thing with the insulation,they been around it they know I smell like it doesn't bother them

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  • Earl Wyatt McCrory

    Just move other in let them live there and see what happens lol.

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  • Anooblikeguy Lol

    Really😲😲

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  • Chaz

    No common sense and irresponsibility being in the house while they were spraying. I had my whole house done, I was out for two days with the windows open during that time. An obvious chemical reaction going on during curing.

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  • Michael Mc Clure

    Fire hazard.

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  • Kin W

    They use this procduct in australua as well…

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  • Jessica -aka JessaNae

    Thank God these folks had a camper!! Could you imagine?!! This is terrible! Whoever the contractor is. ….ooooo boy I hope they got in a TON of trouble!!! There are kids that live here!!

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  • Jessica -aka JessaNae

    This is just nuts!! If you make a product that contains harsh chemicals that can harm ppl….. why the hell would this be used in ppls homes??!!! I mean, it's common sense!! Sure, it's easier, but it'll be easy to have a law suit in your hands, and in this instance. …I'm sure many!!! This is crazy!!!!

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  • TThomas939

    I think the first house was fine, but it just had air balance problems. Possibly caused the attic have positive pressure causing attic air to be pushed into the house

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  • Spencer Sims

    Lawsuit time big time !

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  • Bar K

    There are non-toxic soy based foam insulation alternatives. It is more costly because not popularized but, it needs to be looked at and used more.
    We are killing ourselves and our planet.

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  • Kalle Pettersson

    https://www.byggmax.se/stenullsskiva-paroc-solid-p16890 – works very well here in sweden.

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  • Herewego_2k19

    They need that hammer in insulation.

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  • onenikkione

    I have used the small hand held cans of spray foam and I will ONLY purchase the water-based formula as it cleans up with soap and water. Read the label before you purchase any.

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  • califdad4

    I had blown in insulation put in my attic not this stuff

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  • Sher Grissom

    Not me. We used regular insulation. Works great. Need to call an ebatement team to get rid of it so you won't be paying for a house you are not living in. God bless.

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  • Ray Brown

    What country is making this insulation?

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  • Shajr 61

    Soy-based foam is safer

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  • Moni Pl

    Thank you next! No spray foam here.

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  • Chris Graham

    Your the dumb fucks that chose spray foam over getting your attic blown in😑😂😂

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  • Nathan H

    #richpeopleproblems

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  • Spark Zuckerbum

    The wife has a yeast infection and she’s trying to blame the foam. Smh

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  • oldmansoda

    spray foam e-juice get it before the feds take it away!

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  • Marshal Jim Duncan

    Why the hell would you re-insulate a 14 year old home?

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  • Snotty Scotty

    Next time us Owen Corning Pink Insulation.

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  • 18matts

    Oops

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  • Endoe Kronic

    Jokes on them..that camper has the same foam materials in it as the house does.. it's called CHEAP AND EFFECTIVE!

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  • JOHN CURRIER

    I.m very concerned at the quality of the reporting here. Surely they should have been able to find other horror stories but if they did none were reported. Reporters have been used many times in the past either willingly or unwittingly to cast a really distorted light on someone or something. I am leaning toward believing this is an agenda driven piece.

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  • J Atterberry

    Can they get it removed ? Looks like the company would remove it . Just imagine the ppl that r spraying that stuff what their health is like . I am not a sue person but they should b sued .

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  • Tanner Holmes

    When you use this, you are automatically assuming you wont have to do renovations, electrical, or water line work. Most companies spray this with little concern for anything but insulation. Imagine a water line bursting, and slowly washing this insulation into your drinking water. Yuck.

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  • Xterra Modding Community

    Alien ambient music for a foam insulation issue. Ok.

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  • cimbakahn

    CBC News: Why don't they use fiberglass that millions of homes have been using for over a hundred years? You can do it yourself in no time. I did my parents attic when I was 13 years old.

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  • Hunter Patton

    there just looking for a settlement to pay off what they had done…smh

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  • annacolleen wesson etters

    Seems insane to me, to coat water pipes and wires with something that looks like dried up whipped icing or topping.

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